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Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:17 pm
by torqued
What can be done to upgrade Nissan oil pumps?
In particular VG30et
Besides Dry Sump and what seems to be unobtainable the Atsugi type

Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:32 pm
by Datto_610
I recall hearing James mention that the auto slushbox VG30ET's had a bigger oil pump. Something worth looking into.

Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:02 pm
by 85_Z31
hey Adam

A new Turbo Auto Oil pump is the best you will do without going to huge lengths

turbo auto pumps had wider gears than turbo manual pumps

Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:22 pm
by torqued
What you are referring to is the Atsugi branded type.
If you can find one please let me know, but i cannot

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Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:26 pm
by torqued
More informational - Stolen from Z31 Perf



[QUOTE=Z_Karma;360099]This ITM pump will be going back to Rockauto.
Comparison photos are to the Atsugi pump out of SS820, original motor.

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Inner Gear
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Outer Gear
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Case of Atsugi has a relief for lubrication under the outer gear
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Bypass machining differences. ITM is just milled out. Plungers are both fully seated.
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Depth of outer gear relief
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Height of inner gear standoff
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Depth of pump cavity.
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Spring assembly seems same, springs offer similar resistance when compressed.
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ITM defects, crossthreaded plug, where bypass relief was machined there is exposed voiding (air pockets) in the case.
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It would appear that both pumps housings have the same pump cavity volume, but the ITM has smaller gear surfaces, thereby providing less flow.[/QUOTE]

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Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:39 pm
by DJZ
Wet sump with an external oil pump.

What pumps do the early VG30DETs motors run? They are more like an ET than a DETT aren't they?

Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:09 pm
by 85_Z31
The VG30DETT pump can be made to work, a guy named 260DET in Australlia did it with a lot of machine work to his block. I think he might have used a VG30DETT crank too.

I havn't cooked a rod bearing YET on the skinny drive oil pump. But i make sure not to spin over 6500rpm.

Really i want to hear it to 7000rpm but i can't make myself do it

Re: Nissan Oil Pumps

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:08 am
by torqued
DJZ wrote:Wet sump with an external oil pump.

What pumps do the early VG30DETs motors run? They are more like an ET than a DETT aren't they?
I am not sure sorry buddy,
Are they different? I just assumed they were the same. But might be something to look into.
85_Z31 wrote:The VG30DETT pump can be made to work, a guy named 260DET in Australlia did it with a lot of machine work to his block. I think he might have used a VG30DETT crank too.

I havn't cooked a rod bearing YET on the skinny drive oil pump. But i make sure not to spin over 6500rpm.

Really i want to hear it to 7000rpm but i can't make myself do it
He would've had to use the DETT crank as the snouts are different.

I am trying to aim for a cheap reliable 400hp on this build. I am getting sick of spending money on the car. its getting out of control for my income.


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On a side note i have found a Atsugi pump. its used but ill pull it down and have a look. Should be good. Hopefully and fingers crossed.